Just going by the numbers, it doesn’t make a lot of sense. Civic is like 600-700lbs lighter with a 4 cylinder, yet the Mustang posts better acceleration, better fuel economy, better handling AND it’s MAYBE only a few grand more. 0-60 in 5.1, 31mpg with an AUTOMATIC, and pulls .96G on the handling track…all for $23,000. Why would anyone buy an Si anymore? Looks like Honda needs to SERIOUSLY step up their game…now if only the Mustang had cylinder deactivation to get 34mpg like the turbo Sonata/Optima twins. It’d be the only car I’d ever own….
Reputation.
The big 3 have been struggling and everyone knows it. Sure it’s a Ford and it’s "American" built and it’s the legendary Mustang but when it comes to reputation and reliability Honda takes the cake and not only knocks Ford out but blows it away.
We all know about the economy issues, everyone want’s something cheap and reliable. The whole muscle car age is over, now is the age of Tree Hugging, best MPG, comfort, reliability and the vast majority of people buy their cars strictly for A to B driving. They don’t take into consideration who they can and can’t beat in a race. That’s why companies like Honda and Toyota are leaders in sales.
I’m not a Ford hater and a Honda OMG JDM RPM VTEC fan-boy, I buy a car because I like it. I had a ’99 Mustang and I LOVED that car. But it got old, it had 120k miles on it and was just constantly having problems so I sold it and bought a used Honda. That Honda is a 1995, has 220k miles on it, still gets 28-32mpg depending on how I drive and the worst problem I’ve had is a head gasket.
I’m sure as Ford proves they’ve gone up in reliability sales will start coming back even more in the future.
Ok well your comparing a family sedan upgraded slightly to a typical cheap sports car, the sports car is going to win. Although mileage is suprising, but that is besides the point.
Think about it, your comparing a honda to a mustang…. 2 of the cheapest new cars out there. If you want something nice get a nissan 370 or eclipse, which are halfway decent and smoke the mustang.
"Honda needs to SERIOUSLY step up their game…" ?? R u serious, there a brand of cars forr family, not racing rofl. Why do you think they have the best reliability as well as mileage on their cars?
Get the SI and a Mustang out on a racetrack, or even better an autocross track and see which one is really faster (although this has nothing to do with which is "better").I don’t think it will be the Mustang.
Magazine test numbers don’t mean that much in the real world.A higher G number on a skidpad for example does not mean a car handles better.
700 lbs savings is roughly worth 45 HP. Still not enough for the SI to keep up.
For those naysayers the new mustang has an all new suspension that is shocking the "handling" crowd. It is very well balanced. Put on a set of shocks and springs and you have a real aut0cross car. Also the engine is a step up because it has its roots in Mazda technology.
Now if they just got rid of that rear axle it would remove all last complaints.
The civic sold well because of its reliability and simplicity. Prices are higher because civics are one of the top sellers as compacts. If Honda wanted to rival the mustang then they would redesign the S2k not the civic.
Because it’s a front wheel drive economy car, where as the Mustang is a rear drive muscle car, well almost.It’s new v6 puts out more hp than most older GT’s..
4 cyl vs V6, and gear ratio also.
Look at a used audi s4 b6, youll smoke everyone you come across with a stock ride. 350hp awd
I think your looking at the wrong numbers, don’t think the V6 mustang does 0-60 in 5.1…the V8 maybe, its more like late 6′s to 7′s…(the 2005ish shape that is) so a Si is on par with that. simples
and a civic is far better engineered then a stang…ford need to step up their game…honda were using Double wishbone and fully independant rear suspension for example since the early 90′s, the 2006 stang still uses a live rear axel from the dark ages…and 210bhp from a 4.0 V6? thats appauling, honda nearly get that from a 2.0 4cyl. and the MPG is around 19 in town driving. So actually, it isn’t better atall…
I like american muscle, but new stangs are cheaply built rubbish